Join us as Dr. Jill and Sabrina Solt, ND, discuss everything you need to know about stem cells, including their applications in prolotherapy, PRP (Platelet-Rich Plasma), and exosomes. Discover how these innovative treatments can help address a variety of health conditions, from chronic pain to regenerative medicine.
Key Points
- What is the difference between prolotherapy, PRP and stem cells?
- What are the best injuries to use PRP or stem cells to heal, What are exosomes?
- How to optimize the terrain for optimal healing and recovery from injury
Our Guest – Dr. Sabrina Solt
Dr. Sabrina Solt is a naturopathic medical doctor located in Scottsdale, AZ. She has been practicing regenerative and anti-aging medicine since 2013. Over the years, she has mastered various treatment modalities, such as prolotherapy, PRP, adipose and bone marrow derived stem cells, as well as birth tissue biologics such as amniotic allograft and exosomes. She is known for crafting comprehensive and custom tailored treatment plans for her patients which include things like diet and lifestyle changes, nutritional supplements, bio-identical hormones, peptide therapies, and of course regenerative injections. In her free time, Dr Solt enjoys reading, traveling, and spending time with her husband and three children.
https://www.instagram.com/drsolt/
https://stemcelltherapypro.com/
Dr. Jill Carnahan, MD
Dr. Jill Carnahan is Your Functional Medicine Expert® dually board certified in Family Medicine for ten years and in Integrative Holistic Medicine since 2015. She is the Medical Director of Flatiron Functional Medicine, a widely sought-after practice with a broad range of clinical services including functional medical protocols, nutritional consultations, chiropractic therapy, naturopathic medicine, acupuncture, and massage therapy.
As a survivor of breast cancer, Crohn’s disease, and toxic mold illness she brings a unique perspective to treating patients in the midst of complex and chronic illness. Her clinic specializes in searching for the underlying triggers that contribute to illness through cutting-edge lab testing and tailoring the intervention to specific needs.
A popular inspirational speaker and prolific writer, she shares her knowledge of hope, health, and healing live on stage and through newsletters, articles, books, and social media posts! People relate to Dr. Jill’s science-backed opinions delivered with authenticity, love and humor. She is known for inspiring her audience to thrive even in the midst of difficulties.
Featured in Shape Magazine, Parade, Forbes, MindBodyGreen, First for Women, Townsend Newsletter, and The Huffington Post as well as seen on NBC News and Health segments with Joan Lunden, Dr. Jill is a media must-have. Her YouTube channel and podcast features live interviews with the healthcare world’s most respected names.
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220: Resiliency Radio with Dr. Jill: Stem Cells: Everything You Need to Know for Better Health
Dr. Jill 00:00
Hello and welcome to Resiliency Radio, your go-to podcast for the most cutting-edge insights in integrative and functional medicine. I'm your host, Dr. Jill, and with each episode, we dive into the heart of healing with innovators, leaders in the thought space, and medical experts of all types of topics. If you've been around a while, you know we talk about gut health, microbiome, anti-aging, hormones, and a slew of other topics. Today will be no different, and I'll introduce our expert in just a moment.
Dr. Jill 00:28
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Dr. Jill 00:58
All right, today I want to introduce my guest, Dr. Sabrina Solt. She's a naturopathic medical doctor in Scottsdale, Arizona. She's been practicing regenerative and anti-aging medicine since 2013. Over the years, she's mastered various treatment modalities such as prolotherapy, PRP, adipose and bone marrow-derived stem cells, as well as birth tissue biologics such as amniotic allograft and exosomes. She's known for crafting comprehensive and custom-tailored treatment plans for her patients, which include things like diet and lifestyle, nutritional supplements, bioidentical hormones, peptide therapies, and, of course, regenerative injections. In her free time, she enjoys reading, traveling, and spending time with her husband and three children.
Welcome, Dr. Solt!
Dr. Sabrina Solt 01:41
Thank you so much! It's so great to be here.
Dr. Jill 01:43
Yes. I always like to start with your story into naturopathic medicine and then maybe into the regenerative space. Do you want to tell us a little bit about how you got started?
Dr. Sabrina Solt 01:53
Sure. I always knew I wanted to be a doctor. When I was an undergrad, I had the pleasure of attending a presentation where they were teaching about naturopathic medicine. And it was like: “Well, this is obvious. Why wouldn't I want to help people heal at the root cause instead of just giving them medication?” After that, I set my sights that that's what I was doing.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 02:16
Fast forward to medical school. I pursued various interests while I was there. It wasn't until I was on a rotation that I was introduced, we'll say, to prolotherapy. There was a physician that I was shadowing, and he would perform prolotherapy on patients. There was one patient in particular who came in and had a shoulder issue. It was a rotator cuff injury. This guy was trying to prevent having surgery and trying to get off of pain medications. I had the fortunate ability to be able to treat that patient. Over several sessions, we were able to help him achieve his goal of getting off the pain medications and not having to have surgery. After that, I was like, “Man, I'm sold!”
Dr. Sabrina Solt 02:54
I was a former athlete. I did volleyball. I did soccer. I did fitness competitions. So my joints were hurting. I was like: “Dang, okay. So maybe I can fix some of my own issues here.” After that, it was my passion. I started learning everything that I could about that—about musculoskeletal pain patterns, examination, and how to work with the body to heal it. What I found—the difference between my approach as a naturopathic doctor compared to some of your counterparts in the orthopedic space [is that] they wanted to medicate and surgically manipulate the body into submission. Whereas I was coming at it from this point of: “How can we support the body so it heals itself and we can get people the results that we're looking for and get longevity out of these joints and reverse a lot of these issues that people think are permanent like arthritis and whatnot?” So that's my origin story.
Dr. Jill 03:45
How exciting! I always love it when you have invested like you as an athlete. You saw your own injuries and things and the power. I couldn't agree more. Some of these new technologies that we're using—I love exosomes, I love PRP. Let's define for the audience. You started PRP and now you're doing stem cells and other regenerative therapies. But maybe for those who don't know prolotherapy versus PRP versus stem cells, do you want to give some basic definitions there?
Dr. Sabrina Solt 04:14
Yes. We can go up the ladder. I like to qualify them. The easiest way to understand it is that you're going from the weakest treatment to the strongest treatment. Not to say that one of them is weak, so to speak, because you can apply these things and in the right person, it can be the perfect amount of strength for what they need. But prolotherapy involves using a very mildly irritative solution that's also somewhat nutritive and injecting it with a certain technique that produces more irritation at the area.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 04:47
For the gentleman with the shoulder issue and the rotator cuff, we needled in a very particular way at where that rotator cuff was attaching to the shoulder to remind the body, like: Hey, there's still some damage here; you need to bring more blood and more resources and more healing factors to that area so that we can finally heal this thing that didn't heal right in the first place. So that's where a lot of people, I think, got started in the regenerative medicine space.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 05:10
Then from there, we can graduate to something a little bit stronger, which is PRP. PRP stands for platelet-rich plasma. It's a product that we get from a patient's own blood. It is no more difficult than doing a simple blood draw. Oftentimes, we don't even need a ton of blood. Most of the time, [with] most treatments, to do an area, we're looking at about a tenth of what you'd be given in a blood donation. It's relatively small. There's still plenty for us to work for. And PRP, you can put it pretty much anywhere. And I have. People can use their imaginations for that. It is very safe, very well tolerated. There are only a few things that would make somebody not a candidate for PRP.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 05:45
From there, of course, we can get even stronger, and we get into the world of stem cells. I think this is where a lot of people get confused because there's so much misinformation and confusing information out there about: “What stem cells are allowed in the United States? What's happening outside of the United States? Where can we get stem cells? What's even legal to do?” And I'll speak from a position of what we can do clinically in the United States because I think that's what matters. And I don't have all the details about what's going on in those out-of-the-country clinics.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 06:17
In the United States, we can get stem cells from a person's own fat or a person's own bone marrow. These are very easy procedures done in the office without the use of any general anesthesia. Depending on what we're working on, we may favor one over the other—again, just depending on the situation. We can also get products from birth tissue. We were talking about the exosomes. People also use umbilical cord products, Wharton's jelly, products from the amniotic tissue, or the amniotic fluid.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 06:44
These products can be pretty powerful, but there is a gray area as to whether or not these products contain live stem cells. There are some companies that will say that, but according to the FDA, they're very clear that none of these products should contain live stem cells and there shouldn't be the transfer of live cells from one person to the other. That's not to say they're bad products. They still work very well, and they definitely produce healing in a lot of patients. But we have to understand: What's the nuance of how this one might be working? And may something else be a better fit?
Dr. Sabrina Solt 07:16
And like you were saying, exosomes. I know you probably work a lot with exosomes if you're treating patients who are very inflamed because exosomes are fantastic at taking down inflammation. They can be a great addition to a lot of other procedures, especially if somebody has a lot of pain going into it; it's an acute issue. Or even for aesthetics—you can use exosomes as topical after certain facials. There are a wide range of applications for those.
Dr. Jill 07:41
Gosh, that's so helpful because so many people are very confused about the differences, and I really like that you broke that down.
My experience is that after my extractions of teeth and the cavitation surgeries that I've had with that, they put PRP. I healed so beautifully. It was my own platelets. And of course, that's one use that you maybe don't do in your practice but the biological dentists that I work with do. And then I love facial! I don't love the term “anti-aging” because I want to age well. I'm not into a bunch of fillers or Botox or any of that. But I am into: How can I optimize my collagen production, my skin? I feel like I have good skin for my age. Part of that is because I love microneedling with exosomes. I have my own microneedling pen, so I do it myself sometimes. And I have exosomes. What I found is the power. I'll do very, very light little bits. It's just stimulating the tissue, throwing on those exosomes. The next day, it's glowing. It doesn't even have a down day. It's amazing. I'm sure you've had that experience as well.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 08:39
One hundred percent. I like to call it ‘the magic eraser,' almost. I think microneedling got really famous not too long ago when one of the Kardashians posted this picture of her face so bloody after microneedling, and it intrigued people. But people were like: “How long is that downtime? Am I going to look like that all day? It's terrifying. It's scary. Is it painful?” But with the exosomes, when we put those on during the microneedling—magic eraser. The redness is almost not there. You heal very, very quickly. I love that as an option.
Dr. Jill 09:10
And as I've studied—I am not an ascetician, I'm a medical doctor, but I've talked to a lot of practitioners—what I realize too is you don't need to go so deep. It's very light, gentle, gentle. The body can get that signal. Granted, if you have a scar or something like that, I played with exosomes on my wrist from my broken wrist and my scar there. I did some of that microneedling and exosomes there, and it's a nice scar. Scarring is a whole different issue. Now, we digress a little bit, but I know the women listening are like: “How do you get great skin? You have great skin.” Hopefully, I'll continue to have great skin as we age.
Dr. Jill 09:43
But let's go back to joints and things because one of the questions I get a lot is [for] low back pain, shoulder pain, knee pain, what are good indications? I think there are probably better indications for some of these and ones that maybe don't do quite as well. Would you maybe lay the land?—things that you see [as] very successful as far as the types of joints or situations and ones that are maybe a little bit less likely to have a good impact.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 10:07
Yes.
There are two components to this or two sides to this coin. And it's: What's happening with that joint or that body part itself? And then, what human is that body part attached to? I'll start with the human part first because there are factors that go into whether or not somebody is going to be a good candidate for these procedures. There are very few things that would determine somebody to be a non-candidate. Things like being a cigarette smoker, having active cancer, [having a] BMI above 30—especially for weight-bearing joints, simply because gravity has that impact on those joints and can further exacerbate those things—and being on certain medications. Some of those aren't permanent. People can quit smoking, people can lose weight, and people can get off medications. So we can move them towards that. But active cancer is for sure something that we don't work with. That can range from things.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 11:00
You don't have to be in perfect health. You don't have to be in perfect shape. But as long as you're generally eating a healthy diet, getting adequate sleep, doing enough movement to keep yourself healthy and active, and managing stress, you're probably going to do pretty well with almost any type of regenerative injection.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 11:15
When it comes to the areas that we're treating, I do find that the most successful ones are ones that you can catch as early as possible. If you've had back issues for 20 or 30 years, yes, we can help, but it's probably not going to be to a perfect degree. And this is what I try to teach people too: When it comes to regenerative injections, it's never black or white; did it work or did it not work? It usually falls on a spectrum. Did you get 80–90% improvement, maybe even 100%? Perfect. That's obviously what we want to aim for. But a lot of the time, people fall somewhere below. I usually don't see less than a 30% improvement. As long as a patient's a good candidate and whatnot and they do follow postcare instructions, which are important, we usually don't see less than that. Somebody's going to be looking for that.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 12:01
Say they've got a torn meniscus in the knee, for example, and they want to stay active and they can't because they play pickleball and it starts to swell, it pops, it clicks, and now they're losing out on time with their friends. That, to me, would be a great indication to do a regenerative injection because you're active, it's relatively mild, and we can usually get you some pretty good results.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 12:22
Usually, if people have already had a surgery in the area, sometimes that makes things a little bit more complicated. It doesn't mean we can't work on it, but sometimes we have to be a little bit more flexible with our expectations, simply because after that tissue has been altered at the hands of a surgeon—or maybe you have something artificial in there, like a pin or something—it does limit what the body's capabilities are for renewal and regeneration. And I always like to say if you can try something regenerative before you go the surgery route, please do. Surgery will always be an option, but a lot of times we can't come back after surgery.
Dr. Jill 12:57
Yes. Oh, that makes so much sense. I had a family member who needed a hip replacement and got stem cells first. This was the left hip we thought absolutely needed surgery. The left hip's doing fine. Now his right hip needs surgery, but it was this really cool thing because he staved out that surgery procedure on the left hip. As far as what I saw in MRI, he probably needed a replacement and maybe still will, but it bought some time. That was neat for me to see too because I thought, “A hip is a hip is a hip if there's no joint left.” But I was like, “Wow, that's pretty impressive!” Really cool.
Dr. Jill 13:28
What would you say, whether it's—and I know this might differ between the procedures—prolotherapy versus PRP versus stem cell? I know there are lots of stipulations on not using anti-inflammatories around the timeframe. Do you want to give just a little bit of a primer on what the patient might do before the procedure and after for the different ones?
Dr. Sabrina Solt 13:47
Generally speaking, I like patients to go on as anti-inflammatory of a diet as possible because my goal is to not have excess inflammation coming in because the nature of the type of injections that we're doing is going to cause inflammation. People may be thinking, “Oh my gosh, isn't inflammation bad?” I don't think so. I think that inflammation that is uncontrolled and not leading to an end result can be bad, which we see in autoimmune patients and people who have things like chronic inflammatory response syndrome. But in the context of healing a joint, you want purposeful inflammation, you want controlled inflammation, and you want inflammation that's going to progress down the healing cycle to that proliferation level, to that remodeling level so that we can get that new tissue.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 14:26
In that hip, for example, allowing time to heal probably caused some of that new cartilage to grow. As long as there's even a sliver, as long as there's something for whatever you're using to work on, we can get that new growth. The body is always in a state of healing unless, of course, you're dead. But as long as you are alive, the body is always trying to heal, always trying to correct. And sometimes we just need to give it the right instructions and the right tools.
Dr. Jill 14:49
Oh, fantastic. Can you share or maybe a case or two of some of the really neat things you've seen or experienced with whichever therapy that you want to talk about?
Dr. Sabrina Solt 14:57
Oh my gosh. I do a lot of low backs. There's a condition out there called arachnoiditis. It has nothing to do with spiders, but it has to do with damage that happens at the spinal cord level, usually after the results of some sort of procedure that didn't quite go as expected. A common thing, a common cause of this is epidurals—people going in for epidurals for chronic pain and women going in for epidurals for childbirth. There's something that happens to that spinal canal and the tissues that surround it to the point where now some of the nerves that are exiting the spine start to clump together. And there's this really intense chronic pain picture that starts to develop. A lot of the patients start to get really severe neuropathy in addition to the low back pain. Some people have to get pain pumps installed. They become dependent on pain medications. They lose bowel function, bladder function, and sexual function. It's one of the most terrible illnesses out there, one of the most severe low back situations ever.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 15:51
I have the pleasure of working with a number of these patients to the point where we have gotten people out of wheelchairs. We've gotten people off of pain pumps. And we have seen MRI changes over time that show it has healed to the point where there's no more cord tethering. There's no more spinal stenosis. There's no more facet arthrosis. Really significant improvements.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 16:12
I have one patient in particular; we did his follow-up. And I have to laugh because [on] his initial visit, he was like: “I just want to walk around the block. I can't walk. I can't do anything. I just want to take a walk around the block.” He was mad at his follow-up that he was only walking three miles. I was like: “Come on! We need to have a talk here because that's incredible.” Of course, after we went over everything, he was like, “Yeah.” I was like: “People in your situation don't get better. The fact is, we took you from not walking to walking. I know it's not as much as you want to be walking, but man, three miles after that sort of situation is nothing to frown about.” We see stuff like that all the time where people get a level of healing that no one told them was possible, that they didn't believe was possible, and it defies what the expectations are in the current medical model.
Dr. Jill 17:02
I love that. Maybe you already answered this but one thought that I have had before is that I'll do a procedure or give a patient a protocol and sometimes in my mind I'm like: “Wow, this is going to be hard. I don't know if they'll get better.” But I don't necessarily tell them that. Then they come back and they're better. I'm like, “Wow!” Even for me, I'm in disbelief, like, “I can't believe that just happened!” Can you think of any situations? Maybe some of the ones you just said. But anything else about a situation where, even with all that you know, you were like, “Oh, this is going to be a hard case,” and then you saw them turn around?
Dr. Sabrina Solt 17:32
I wouldn't say all the time, but people sometimes find their way to stem cell therapy because they've exhausted everything. They have tried all the medications. They might have had the surgeries. They've done all the alternative stuff. They've maybe done the frog poison and the ayahuasca. They have run the gamut of things that they have tried. And finally, stem cells is their last choice.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 17:52
I had this young lady, very young, early 20s. Whole life ahead of her. One of the most severe cases of lichen sclerosus that I've ever seen, which is an autoimmune disorder people might not be aware of. But you end up developing plaques on your most intimate regions. You end up with a lot of pain. She was about to start her life. She was engaged. She had tried everything—every round of antibiotics. She had done stem cells two previous times with another practitioner who had a slightly different approach than I did. She's so sweet. She literally said, “You saved my life.” We got her better. She was able to go on to getting married, going back to her life. We kind of put that into remission. And people will tell you, “You can't put autoimmune disorders into remission.” But I've seen time and time again that we can.
Dr. Jill 18:41
I love that. I love talking about reversible autoimmunity, just like you, because it blows people's minds. [With] my history with cancer and then Crohn's, I was told: “It's incurable. You're going to have this lifelong. There's nothing we can do. You'll probably have part of your colon removed.” All of that was not true. I'm completely free of Crohn's disease 20 years later. No signs or symptoms of that. I might have all of my bowels normal. That's very different from your case, but in the sense of things that we consider irreversible. And I love that you and I are sharing because that's where I started the conversation. So often—even as a doctor who believes in miracles—I'll be like, “Oh, this is a tough case!” and then they'll come back and be like, “I'm all better!” I'm like, “Really?” I love that.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 19:20
I love those so much. I had a teacher one time; they said, “There's no such thing as an incurable disease, but there are incurable patients.” The reverse can be true for that too. But it is a testament to the power of the right therapy at the right time in the right patient, and of course, the mindset of somebody wanting to heal. I think that's a really big component too that a lot of people don't pay attention to. You've got to be ready for it.
Dr. Jill 19:47
You do, right? I love that. And believe what else is possible because, with Crohn's, I was like: “Wait, this doesn't make sense. I think I can fix this.” It took some time, but it did happen.
Dr. Jill 19:56
What do you see as a landscape? I think things keep changing pretty rapidly in stem cells, peptides, and exosomes. We're losing some of the things that we've used forever. But you're in the trenches working. What do you see as the pros and cons of what's happening as far as your access to these things or maybe what's changing for the better? Give us both sides of the coin.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 20:16
The good news is that people are trying to keep these things accessible to patients as much as they can. And that's, I think, all we can do. There are the three letter agencies that are trying to remove things for no good reason, except they want to get their hands in it so that they can make money. On the stem cell side, I'll give you an example. They tried to say that if I were to say take your stem cells out from your own fat tissue, process them, and then give them back to you, that now what I've done is I've created a drug and now I'm drug manufacturing, which means I need to be overseen by the pharmaceutical industry and that that process then needs to be sold back to you to the tune of about half a million dollars for you to now get your own drug-approved stem cells, which is insane. We know that your cells or your body are neither a food nor a drug, so they shouldn't be monitored by the organization that promotes foods and drugs. But they try—they really try to say that is.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 21:16
There was a case not too long ago with a group out of California. They were fighting the government on this. They won because of the premise that your body, your tissues, and your cells are not drugs. Of course we all know that, but there just had to be this case. Since that ruling, it's been a lot more optimistic in the field as far as, “Okay, we may be able to get some of this stuff back,” because ultimately the drug manufacturing aspect of it and why stem cells will likely never fall under that is that there's no ability to standardize human tissue. You can't replicate it at mass. There's no way. So we may be safe in that regard.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 21:56
The other side to it too is that some people will start to say, “When will this be covered by insurance?” That I don't know; I don't play a lot in the insurance industry. The tricky thing with that becomes: At what standard then would insurance cover it? And do we really want this procedure only available to people at the permission of somebody's insurance company when they could still benefit from it regardless? And what will they have to try? What will they have to fail? How long will they have to wait? And I like that it's currently accessible right now to pretty much anybody who might want it.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 22:27
On the peptide side of things, that's it. It's kind of heartbreaking because the FDA did try taking a bunch of those away from us as well. We can still get a good amount and there's still a lot that we can do. In general, I like to think of peptides as a cherry on top of an already great system. You've already got everything else dialed in. So yes, they can absolutely optimize things, but I don't think that they're going to be a general root cause thing for most people. While it's a loss, it's not something that is, I think, going to be super damaging long term. And of course, there are a lot of companies that are trying to come up with alternatives to possibly do similar things or even better things.
Dr. Jill 23:05
I couldn't agree more. What happened was a shift to taking away injectables. And now there are oral peptides. Some of them are quite effective. We carry some in our clinic. I've been having great results with that, even though we don't have access to all the injectables we used to. So yes, to be continued on all of this. But I know you and I and anyone in this realm are trying to be advocates for the therapies that help our patients because it's not about profit; it's about helping patients. So I love that. I love, love, love that.
Anything you see on the horizon as future things that maybe aren't ready for consumers yet but you see as potential opportunities?
Dr. Sabrina Solt 23:43
There's a lot of research happening in the gene editing space. I don't know how much you've dove into that, but there are a couple of companies now where you can go offshore and get a gene therapy to lengthen your telomeres to help with muscle mass increase. There are quite a few. There are multiple ones out there. I think that that's going to be an interesting phenomenon to see how that shifts and if it ever does become part of the mainstream and if the pricing on that does ever come down.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 24:16
From what I understand, don't quote me on this, but a treatment on those ranges in the tens of thousands, if not a hundred thousand dollars, to do something like that. But people get curious. People want to know if they're safe, if they're effective. And I think we're still in the early stages of that. But I think that might be something that's on the horizon.
Dr. Jill 24:34
Yes.
And what I'm sure you have seen as well is [that with] some of these things, the rate at which they're coming to market is much quicker than it used to be. Things are exponentially increasing. So stay tuned, because who knows? In a couple of years, we might be way further ahead than we ever thought in some of these regenerative therapies.
Amazing. I have really enjoyed hearing more about all the stuff that you're doing. If people want to find out more about you and your practice, where can they go?
Dr. Sabrina Solt 25:01
Yes. I'm most active on Instagram. You can find me there. Just @drsolt. The website is www.StemCellTherapyPro.com. That's going to be the best way for anybody to book a call, learn about if we can help you, and see our offerings and our services.
Dr. Jill 25:16
Fantastic. And I'm assuming you're still taking clients and patients.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 25:19
I am. We usually book out about a month, but yes, definitely still accepting new clients.
Dr. Jill 25:23
Fantastic. If you're driving anywhere and you're listening, you will have this in the show notes, so don't stop the car to take notes. We'll make sure you have everything you need. Thanks so much, Dr. Solt, for joining us. This has been a really enlightening conversation.
Dr. Sabrina Solt 25:36
Thank you so much for having me.
Dr. Jill 25:37
You're welcome.
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